My website has dropped out of sight on Google. Here are the details:
1. Prior to Novemer 1st, we were in the top 25 out a cast of "1000's"
when the keyword "braided rugs" was entered. At that time I made
significant changes to all pages on the site, and added 2 new ones.
That's when we dissapeared. (No changes were made to the Title,
Description, or Keywords>)
2. After the end of the November crawl the cache changed to the new
index page so I assume we were found. However, we are still not ranked
for the key "braided rugs". The site will come up number 1 if you type
in the title of the site (Marge's Braided Rugs) as the search key.
3. We paid YaHoo to be listed as a commercial site 3 months ago. That
worked great initially but since they changed their way of
searching...using Google, we don't appear there either unless you do a
Directory search.(We are a sponsored listing..see Overture)
4. We are listed on DMOZ.
5. We pay Overture on a pay per click basis.
Questions:
1. This is my first attempt at web design and I know there are a
number of things (no...a lot of things) that could be improved on this
site (based on my reading of answers to other Google questions)but is
there anything
that would keep us from being ranked at all with our major key??
2. How long after a site is "found" is it indexed?
3. I checked the links using +www.margesbraidedrugs.+com and YaHoo
doesn't show up. Why not?
4. Am I going to have this problem every time I make changes or is
there some level of change that I can make w/o getting booted??
I understand about the "Google Dance" so that doesn't have to be
explained. This could be just a matter of timing, but, if so, I'd like
to be reassured. I also know there are is a lot of code in the body of
the index page before you get to the text but this hasn't changed from
the old version.
I'd appreciate any suggestions that you care to make that would
improve the site.
Hello Ringo,
I have an answer substantially completed for you, but would
like to ask if you can clarify the following point in your
question: where you ask,
'I checked the links using +www.margesbraidedrugs.+com and YaHoo
doesn't show up'
could you give me a little more definition - which search engine
are you entering this query into; is this in relation to your
sponsored listings?
Thanks,
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I typed the query into Google and expected to see a link to Yahoo. The
only links I see besides those to my own site are zeal.com and
sprite.com...2 DMOZ se.
Hello Ringo,
Please let me say first of all, that regardless of your statement that
this is your first attempt at webdesign, I'm very impressed. You are
most definitely in the realms of 'fine tuning' your site, rather than
requiring to fix many glaring problems. I hope the suggestions I put
forward below will help you to iron out the difficulties you have
outlined - if after reading through them, you are unsure on any
points, please do not hesitate to ask me for clarification before
rating my research - I will be most happy to assist further if
necessary.
I have reproduced this text also at the following URL, as some content
may not post well here:
http://www.beginnerprogrammer.com/googleanswers/ringo/ringo.html
I must say before beginning, that the precise algorithm Google uses at
any one time to determine the placement of sites within its' listings
is unknown outside of the organisation. If it were to be made public,
it would become easy for site designers to manipulate the system
artificially. Google Answers Researchers are not party to such
information, and thus are not capable of giving specific definitive
instruction for the manipulation of rankings. With that in mind..
Firstly, I link-checked all the pages of your site:
Netmechanic's robot page counter:
http://www.netmechanic.com/maintain.htm#bottomtest
Email result:
NetMechanic has estimated the size of your site:
Your site size is 20 pages.
and I created a map of the structure, to become aware of the
overall design:
http://www.margesbraidedrugs.com/index.html
- http://www.margesbraidedrugs.com/Picturerug.html
- http://www.margesbraidedrugs.com/starfishfront.html
'- http://www.margesbraidedrugs.com/fruitharvest.html
'- http://www.margesbraidedrugs.com/construction.html
- http://www.margesbraidedrugs.com/compareflatnew.html
- http://www.margesbraidedrugs.com/myhandnew.html
- http://www.margesbraidedrugs.com/woolnew.html
- http://www.margesbraidedrugs.com/mybraidingnew.html
'- http://www.margesbraidedrugs.com/gallery.html
- http://www.margesbraidedrugs.com/fireside.html
- http://www.margesbraidedrugs.com/amishautumn
- http://www.margesbraidedrugs.com/Mamanasco.html
- http://www.margesbraidedrugs.com/sandstone.html
- http://www.margesbraidedrugs.com/berwyn.html
- http://www.margesbraidedrugs.com/serenity.html
- http://www.margesbraidedrugs.com/fireandice.html
- http://www.margesbraidedrugs.com/seascape.html
- http://www.margesbraidedrugs.com/genesis.html
'- http://www.margesbraidedrugs.com/topsail.html
I Checked the first 736 Google results under the search phrase
'braided rugs' - indeed, your index page does not appear in the
listings before the message 'In order to show you the most relevant
results, we have omitted some entries very similar to the 736 already
displayed' appears.
Checking through the HTML on each of your pages, I would raise the
following points:
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Starting with your main index page:
http://www.margesbraidedrugs.com/index.html
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Keyphrase density, meta & title tags:
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I noticed that although your primary keyphrase no longer appears to
invoke your index page, many combinations of the words within the
title tag, will still bring it up in first position on Google. If you
ignore the 'braided rugs' keyphrase, your index page is actually still
very well listed.
For example, searching on the following terms:
Marge's Braided
Let Me Braid
You An Heirloom
Marge's Rugs
Braid You An
Rugs:"Let Me
(just to illustrate the point) puts you in first place. The exception
being, as is your concern,
Braided Rugs
I did check the Internet Wayback machine:
http://www.archive.org
to try and compare your existing site content to that which existed
prior to November 1st, unfortunately no archived page could be found.
So what is the problem with the keyphrase 'braided rugs'?
I believe this problem with your main keyphrase is likely due to two
things:
1. A change in the level of competition for that phrase
- You're up against some stiff competition for
your chosen keyphrase, making your listing
very vulnerable to changes other webmasters
make to their sites
2. The possible over-use of the phrase in your meta tags
- It's possible for your listing to be downgraded
as a result of 'shouting too loud' - You have 5-6
instances of the keyphrase in one (keyword) tag.
These problems are not insurmountable.
I have compiled some statistics regarding the keyphrase 'braided
rugs'. The figures should help you to gain an insight into the figures
you should aim for in your own site, in order to remain competitive
for that particular keyphrase. The full table shows a 'snapshot' of
your competition's current keyphrase distribution.
The full table does not post well here, so please visit the following
URL to see the individual figures:
http://www.beginnerprogrammer.com/googleanswers/ringo/ringo.html
The figures that currently relate to your own index page are as
follows:
5.64 - KD Overall keyphrase density, as percentage
1 - T Instances of keyphrase in Title tag
1 - MD Instances of keyphrase in Meta Description tag
5 - MK Instances of keyphrase in Meta Keyword tag
5 - B Instances of keyphrase in Body text
2.94 - BT% Keyphrases in Body text, as percentage
340 - TVT Total visible text (words)
0 - IL Number of incoming links, counted by Google
2 - PR Page rank, assigned by Google
Looking at the figures I compiled for the top 25 sites for the phrase
'braided rugs', notice that most sites do not exceed 2 instances of
the keyphrase in each of their meta-tags.
Over-use of keyphrases can lead search engines, including Google, to
raise an overusage flag, whereby the site will be ignored for that
term. In extreme cases, this can lead to the page or domain being
permanently disqualified.
A good resource to check, and help craft, your meta - tags, is
ScrubTheWeb's Meta Tag Analyser:
META Tag Analyzer:
http://www.scrubtheweb.com/abs/meta-check.html
Running your index page through the tool as it stands, gave the
following output for the meta keywords tag:
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WARNING! THIS TAG MAY BE DISQUALIFIED!
REASON: We found the following keywords were repeated
more than 3 times in the META Keywords Tag:
The word braided was repeated 8 times
The word rugs was repeated 6 times
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It's my suspicion that this could well be the reason for your page not
being listed under this particular keyphrase.
A look through the posts at Webmaster World forums reveals, however,
that meta-tags have diminished in importance..
An example:
http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum8/496.htm
The figures I compiled earlier bear this out - look at the number of
sites, even in the top 25, which are listed high for the keyphrase
without it ever appearing in the meta tags. I'd suggest that there's
no harm in keeping one instance of your primary keyphrase in each of
your meta tags, but it's quite possible that by over-filling these
tags with repeated terms, there is a danger more harm than good can be
done.
Certainly, it *is* important to place your primary, highest - traffic
generating keyphrase, firmly at the front of your title tag.
All in all, maybe try something along the following lines:
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Braided Rugs from Marge
[plenty of visible body text, containing around 3-4% primary
keyphrase]
This:
Can safely be removed with absolutely no ill effects whatsoever.
This:
Can also be removed, most search engines including Google will simply
ignore it.
The author tag will not cause any problems, but nor will it increase
ranking or traffic.
The above are only examples - the more analysis you put into
identifying your best keyphrases, and their placement and distribution
on the page, the better.
Robert Woodhead has a very good page of tips regarding the preparation
of your page for indexing by the search engines. I have used his
advice with excellent results on a number of occasions:
http://selfpromotion.com/pageprep.t
The above page is part of his larger site, the homepage of which is
located at:
http://selfpromotion.com
Please note however, that the advice concerning Yahoo there is
possibly a little outdated.
A number of page parameters including Keyphrase density can be checked
at:
Keyword Density.com:
http://www.keyworddensity.com/
This is the tool I used to compile most of the figures for the top 25
and top 100 - 125 sites for the keyphrase 'braided rugs', posted at
the link noted above.
Incoming Links - of great importance.
''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
The number of incoming links to your index page seems to be quite low
- zero in fact, as currently measured by Google. Although it isn't the
only metric to be considered, you should be able to discern a trend in
the above figures toward higher-ranked pages having a larger quantity
of external links pointing toward them. One major benefit of having
many links connecting to your page from other sites, is that as well
as allowing humans to click-through to your
site, each link provides a potential route for a search engine robot
to visit.
You can check the number of links pointing at your page, which Google
is aware of, by entering the following searchterm into Google's main
search:
link:http://www.margesbraidedrugs.com/index.html
Another way to locate pages which link to yours, is by using the
counter feature at LinksToYou.com:
LinksToYou.com Counter
http://linkstoyou.com/CheckLinks.htm
You should enter the term 'www.margesbraidedrugs.com/index.html'
The backward links returned by this search, although valid, may not
reflect links *which Google is yet aware of*, however it can provide a
useful 'radar' to check on how well linked your page actually is - it
can be comforting.
When I checked your URL using this search, I found the following
results:
AltaVista -- found ? links to you.
AltaVista -- found ? links to you excluding your own links.
Hotbot ----- found 8 links to you.
Fast ------- found 0 links to you.
MSN -------- found 6 links to you.
This is quite low; you would most definitely benefit from increasing
these numbers.
There are a number of ways to do this:
1.
You may join a link club or 'farm', which will attempt to
automatically create links pointing at your site.
2.
You may join a banner, or an exit, exchange program.
3.
You can make approaches to other site designers, asking them if they
would consider adding a link to your site, from theirs, perhaps in
return for a similar link.
4.
You can sign guestbooks. Although these pages tend to have a lower
page rank, they certainly generate traffic; I've noticed this when
checking my own logs.
5.
You can add your site's URL to link lists and directories:
For example:
Connecticut Directory and Internet Start Page:
(follow the link at the bottom: 'Add your CT Site')
http://www.connquest.com/
Connsearch.com - Connecticut's largest search engine and directory:
(submission by email)
http://www.connsearch.com/
Of the above methods, I would tend to stay away from items 1 and 2.
The reasoning behind this is the statement by Google:
'...setting up pages/links with the sole purpose of fooling search
engines may result in permanent removal from our index...'
Found on the useful page:
My Web Pages Are Not Currently Listed:
://www.google.com/webmasters/2.html#A1
This page is part of a very informative set:
Google Information for Webmasters:
://www.google.com/webmasters/
Also, in the case of banner and exit exchanges, apart from the
'clickthrough rate' being extremely unsatisfactory, they can cause a
level of visitor irritation which more than nullifies any benefit that
might have been brought by participation in the program.
I personally enjoy using method 3. Use Google to compile a list of
sites from which you feel a link would be worthwhile, then work
through the list over time, just sending one polite email to each
webmaster, asking to consider a linkswap. A large proportion of site
designers welcome this approach - you are helping them as well as
yourself.
Go here for an example:
https://answers.google.com/answers/main?cmd=threadview&id=118600
Other possible beneficial changes to your index page:
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I'm looking at your index page source code, and can see, immediately
after the opening body tag, a number of table cells containing the
same small image - I'm unsure why you should be using this. It's only
a small point, but this could be removed. Is this the 'extra code' you
refer to in your question?leaving it in would not probably not pose a
huge problem as far as indexing is concerned; it simply appears to
have no purpose other than to provide an invisible line at the top of
the page. Possibly you have this code in readiness for a future
feature?
One thing to note about images, such as those referred to above, is
that if possible, it's good to include the alternative text tag for
each one; it may help indexing, especially on a specific image search:
Also, for similar reasons, it's useful to give your images decriptive
names:
Instead of:
http://www.margesbraidedrugs.com/az1a.jpg" border=0>
use
http://www.margesbraidedrugs.com/traditional braided rug.jpg"
alt="image of traditional braided rug" border=0>
... as appropriate.
Monitoring visits to your index page
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I can see some tracking code at the very bottom of your page; it
appears to be Yahoo / GeoCities based; I cannot identify it further.
Does your current tracking service allow you to monitor the
searchterms visitors are using, to find your site?
Often, a phrase which you were completely unaware would generate
traffic, and which just happened to be part of the natural flow of the
body text on the page, will identify itself through a tracker with
that capability.
For instance, I currently maintain one site for a local plumber. I
picked upon the keyphrase 'ormskirk plumber', thinking that would be a
likely term that people would use to try and find the services he
offers. However, in the several months his site has been online, I
have discovered that almost nobody has found his page by typing in
'ormskirk plumber' - rather, most of his visitors have been using the
term 'plumber hourly rates'!
If you think you could benefit from such a service, I've found that
the following gives good basic value, with a good range of features:
GoStats tracking:
http://gostats.com/
A range of other services to choose from:
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=website+statistics+counter+tracker
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Moving on & looking at your subsidiary pages:
http://www.margesbraidedrugs.com/*.*
---------------------------------------------
Your subsidiary pages, stemming from your index page, are a real
opportunity for increasing your site ranking and visitors.
At the moment, the indexable content on these pages is essentially
wasted. For instance, here are a few titles I noticed:
Picturerugtemp
starfishfront
fruitharvest
construction
compareflatnew
These words are in absolute prime position for Google and other search
engines to pick them up and index them. In fact, I'll just try an
experiment...
Yes. Picturerugtemp, and compareflatnew, when typed into Google, bring
up your pages, all by themselves with no competition at all. This is
because they're unique - nobody else is competing against you on these
keywords. Of course, there probably aren't too many people out there
who decide to type these words into the search, however - so ideally,
it would be very much worth your while to experiment with different
keyphrases here. Try to target keyphrases which are commonly typed,
but which aren't over-targeted by your competition. This is the rub!
On this point, I refer you once again to Robert Woodhead's advice:
http://selfpromotion.com/pageprep.t
As a starting point, here are some possible alternatives for the
titles of your subsidiary pages, in the same order as the originals
given above:
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Treat each one of your subsidiary pages as a separate website, each
with it's own individual primary keyphrase. Each one has the potential
to be listed and assigned a page rank - by 'casting your net wide',
you can expect to greatly increase your traffic.
In addition to fully researched title tag content, each page should
have it's own individually researched set of meta tags, and should
have keyphrases strategically distributed through the body text, of
which there should be sufficient to 'feed' the search engines'
indexing robots. Also, endeavor to gain external links to each page,
in the same way as to your index page.
It might be useful to design some form of navigation palette, which
could be placed on every page. You could use anything from a
straightforward list of links to every other area of the site, to an
HTML table containing images used as links - the good thing here is
that the navigation palette will only have to be designed once, and
then simply placed on each page. This way, not only will visitors be
able to skip around your pages easily, but also, if a search engine
indexing robot happens to travel down one external link to any one of
your pages, it will then find it easy to rapidly spread throughout all
the pages of your site, creating fresh listings as it goes.
There are two linking methods it's probably best to avoid when
designing a navigation palette - 'flash movies' and 'image maps'.
Whilst these methods have their uses, they don't index well.
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How long after a site is "found", is it indexed?'
============================================================
Please see the following URL for some background information:
How Do I Get My Site Listed on Google?
://www.google.com/webmasters/1.html
See also, Webmaster World's Google section:
This resource contains a vast amount of useful information concerning
the minutiae of maintaining your listing:
Home/Forums Index/The Search Engine World/Google News:
http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum3/
Essentially, Google updates it's index on a monthly basis - so that
the time between being 'spidered' and showing up in the listings can
range from a few days up to a month. The update is not rigidly fixed
in time, and occurs over a period, as you are aware - 'the Google
Dance.'
There appear to be two forms of the Google indexing robot. One is the
main, 'deep crawler', the other is a 'temporary' indexer which appears
to visit new sites some time prior to the main one. It is rumored to
be capable of dynamically updating the current index:
http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum3/7485.htm
I know from my own experience that the time around an update can be
traumatic. Occasionally sites *do* fail to appear in the updated
index, only to reappear the next month with no changes having been
made - I tend to think, therefore, that if you're in full control of
your site, i.e. you don't use a third party to maintain & 'optimise'
your pages, and you're certain you've not intentionally broken any of
the major rules, such as repeatedly submitting, or using 'smoke &
mirror' tactics such as cloaking:
Search Engine World/Misc/Cloaking Overview:
http://www.searchengineworld.com/misc/cloaking.htm
then it's often a good idea to just wait maybe six or seven weeks.
Don't go 'chasing the dials', just wait & hope things improve in the
next update. The danger is, that in desperation, you actually *do*
make a damaging change!
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Current inter search-engine paid listings:
============================================================
Although you have set up a pay-per-click arrangement with Overture,
Google is not one of the search engines which partners with them.
Overture can put you on 8 of the top U.S. search sites:
MSN, Yahoo!, Lycos, AltaVista, InfoSpace, Netscape, CNET and Netzero:
http://www.overture.com/d/USm/about/advertisers/ays_reachP.jhtml
http://www.overture.com/d/USm/about/advertisers/ays_affpartnersP.jhtml
Your listing from Overture will appear on the affiliate sites listed
at the URLs above, but not on Google.
Google runs it's own paid listing programme:
://www.google.com/ads/
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Am I going to have this problem every time I make changes
or is there some level of change that I can make w/o
getting booted?
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You do need to make regular changes. The best keyphrases for your
enterprise will slowly shift over time, so it's definitely worth
keeping abreast of them and switching around from time to time.
Watch the competitions' figures for keyphrase density, be careful not
to overuse keyphrases, and spend a little time each month
re-researching which terms are likely to bring you traffic - follow
the advice at selfpromotion.com regarding keyphrase selection - and
make small adjustments to suit. Above all, if a major calamity seems
to have happened, don't jump immediately to the conclusion that your
site has been dropped, or that there's some other serious problem -
wait it out for a little while to let things settle.
Realistically, you're likely to follow a slightly bumpy road - one
month you'll be overjoyed with your listing, another month, a little
disappointed. But on the bright side, being totally excluded from the
index is rare as long as you follow the rules, and take steps to keep
ahead of the competition.
Less scrupulous site designers use a method known as page-jacking: in
an effort to damage the competition, they 'steal' your pages' HTML,
and put up many copies around the 'net. This has the effect of causing
the search engines, including Google, to see all these differently
located, but identical, pages, and think 'spammer'. All of a sudden,
your page disappears from the index completely, banned under the
impression that an attempt is being made to artificially increase
product exposure. So it's well worth making a regular change to head
this problem off.
Apart from anything else, a change of scenery probably helps to keep
visitors interested & returning.
___________________________________________________________________
Search strategy:
Searchterms used on Google:
site tune up
meta tag generator
I hope you find the above information useful, and can use it to
successfully regain and maintain a high ranking for your site, with
your chosen keyphrases.
If anything is unclear, any links seem not to operate, or you would
like further information, please do not hesitate to ask me for further
information before rating my research. I will be glad to clarify
further should you require.
Best regards - and good luck -
gan.
Hi Gan,
I'll need awhile to digest your response but here are some prliminary
thoughts. I put a link in to my old index page so that you can get a
look at what it was like before I changed it. Go to /topsail.html and
click on the graphic.
I did change the meta keywords substantially between versions 1 and 2
as you'll see. However, The conventional wisdom has it that Google
doesn't use keywords. Are you suggesting that keywords may not effect
your ranking, but if the rules are violated they could be used to
disqualify the site?? At any rate...Ill change them back to what they
were to see if that makes a difference. When do you suggest that I do
that?
The conventional wisdom also has it that if you're on YaHoo, it makes
it easier to get on Google. Why do you suppose it is that the link to
YaHoo doesn't show up on Google? I can understand why the DMOZ links
don't show because they are relatively new, but I was on YaHoo before
I was on Google.
The site statistics tell me that 90% of the people who access my site
use the key, "braided rugs" .While I may rate #1 with other keys it
won't do me much good if they are not used. Your point about using
other titles and keywords on subsidiary pages is well taken however.
Hello Ringo,
Just to let you know I've received your queries above.
Thanks for making your previous version available; I'm
performing further research for you & will post back
again soon.
Best regards,
gan.
Hello again Ringo.
I tend to agree with the conventional wisdom, and working from that
standpoint I think it's better to err on the side of caution when
constructing meta tags. What time is best to change your tags? I'd
just go ahead and do it, as soon as you're happy with the set you've
created.
Google seems to index the title tag and body text extremely well - for
quite some time I maintained a large page which ran to 7 screenfuls of
text; I found that Google picked up on searchterms throughout the
document, right to the bottom. I have noticed also that keeping your
primary keyphrase at the very front of the title tag, and diluted by
other text as little as possible, helps to produce a high ranking.
I've had a good look at your old index page; one advantage it had over
your new version was more visible text: around 350 words as opposed to
around 200 words in the current main page. However, your new version
has a greater sprinkling of keyphrases throughout which is far better.
If you can add more visible text to your new index page, complete with
well researched keyphrases, it can only be beneficial, as long as you
don't over-repeat keyphrases gratuitously.
I've spent some time on Overture, checking out the stats for your
keyphrases, and below are the 'boiled down' results, with an example
of the kind of HTML you might use. All the work I did pretty much
confirmed that your choice of the keyphrase 'braided rugs' is a sound
one, from both the angle of searches performed per month, and the
number of sites competing against you.
Visit the following URL for the full list of keyphrase figures:
http://www.beginnerprogrammer.com/ringo/keyphrase.html
I Selected the following keyphrases from the full list on the basis of
frequency of use by surfers, and also proportion of other sites
competing
on the same keyphrase (the less the better!).
(singular terms have been pluralised)
searches pm keyphrase competing sites (s)/(c)
(s) (c)
7426 braided rugs 22800 0.32570
44354 area rugs 366000 0.12118
3247 contemporary rugs 69500 0.04671
447 braided area rugs 13800 0.03239
298 wool braided rugs 6000 0.04966
1722 area rug contemporary 34400 0.05005
514 rug outlet 44100 0.01165
Construction of Indexable content (see HTML below):
1. Primary keyphrase 'braided rug(s)' at immediate start of title tag.
2. Also keyphrase 'area rug(s)' - more searched than 'braided rug(s)',
but also more competition..
3. Selected keyphrase 'area rug contemporary' - can be worked into
title without becoming too nonsensical
4. Include as little 'diluting' content in title as possible.
5. Once again, primary keyphrase at start of description tag.
6. Description tag short, avoid diluting keyphrase density.
7. 2 for the price of 1 in keywords - combine 'wool braided rugs' and
'braided rugs'
8. Don't overdo the keywords tag.
9. Rather than use style commands, try to keep the first heading as an
tag, containing the primary keyphrase.
Braided Rugs & Area Rugs, Contemporary designs
.
.
.
Marge's Braided Rugs
.
.
.
Visible body test - hugely important.
''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
plenty of body text - the more the better,
containing strategically placed keyphrases
selected from your list. Aim for a density
of around 3-5% in the visible body text,
for your primary keyphrase 'braided rugs'
You should be able to safely repeat the
keyphrase up to 5 - 6 times, working it
appropriately into the visable text. That
would roughly correspond to a visible
body text size of around 250 - 350 words.
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Keep on working away at getting good incoming links - like the visible
body text issue, this greatly affects ranking.
If you are listed in the DMOZ directory, that listing *can* appear in
the Google web search results, given time. When a DMOZ-related listing
appears in Google's results, it will be of one of two forms:
1. - A link to a DMOZ directory page - part of the directory itself,
rather than a DMOZ-listed site.
2. - An individual site listing, originating from DMOZ, via Google's
proprietary implementation of DMOZ:
About Google Web Directory
://www.google.com/dirhelp.html
I've certainly found a listing on DMOZ to be a great benefit.
Google does not use Yahoo's directory in the same way that it uses
DMOZ's data, by directly incorporating the database.
A listing on Yahoo makes it easier to get listed by Google, probably
by way of increasing general site visibility - Google's spider may use
Yahoo listings as a starting point for indexing the web - this would
only be speculation, but it does not directly return results from the
Yahoo directory.
Search Strategy:
Use of Overture.com & Google to ascertain keyphrase usage and
competition stats
I hope the above has helped; If there is anything for which you would
like further clarification, please don't hesitate to ask. I will be
very happy to assist further.
Best regards,
gan.
Hi Gan,
Received the latest but really haven't looked at it in detail. I made
a couple of changes based on your previous recommendations. I reduced
the number of times the primary key appears in Meta Keywords in the
index and I re-did one of the subsidiary pages /genesis1. (You can
access this by clicking on the image labeled "Genesis" in
/gallery.html.) I gave it (genesis1) a more meaningful title, added a
description and some keywords, added text and another link. I'm going
to use the added portion as a template to change the other subsidiary
files giving each a more meaningful name.I'd like your impressions.
I recently subscribed (prior to posting my questions on Google) to
selfpromotion.com so I have access to all of his site. I agree there
is a lot of useful information which I hadn't digested previously.
Thanks for all of your help.
Regards,
Ringo
Hi Ringo,
I've had a look at /genesis1; the extra content should help a lot.
I have 7 immediate ideas that you might be able to use to give a
'final polish' to the template before you apply it to all your
subsidiary pages; I'm currently working on a rundown of these for you
& will post soon.
Best regards,
gan.
Hi Gan,
I'm awaiting your 7 "immediate ideas", however I think you've more
than earned your fee. I have re-done the index page and the two 2nd
level subsidiaries, and although they were not a part of my original
question I would be happy to tip you an extre $10 if you would review
them...If not, that's OK. The new index page is at
www.margesbraidedrugs.com/MBRindex.html. The two 2nd tier pages are
/gallery.com and /Picturerug.com. I haven't done anything with the 3rd
tier pages...waiting to hear your suggestions.
I have a problem with some of the keywords that you suggested...i.e.
contemporary rugs, area rugs etc. Braided rugs are a only a small
segment of the entire rug market and unless you use the words "braided
rugs" as a part of the search phrase you are really expanding the
universe. Other less used phrases are "braided area rugs", "braided
woolen rugs", and "braided colonial."
rugs." There is little else beyond those to choose from. I also
hesitate to use "Braided Rugs From Marge" as opposed to "Marge's
Braided Rugs" as a title because Marge's Braided Rugs is our URL plus
what reputation we have is as MBRugs.
Thanks for your help.
Regards,
Ringo
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