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AA will stop flying directly to Milan on 31 October, but after that day you can still use AA by connecting through Brussels into flight AA 6639 operated by Sabena. However, the fare rules specificly prohibit you from using that flight.
In other words, AA is publishing fares to Milan that say that they are valid only if you fly on AA metal into that destination, never mind the fact that AA no longer serves it. I would still think that AA wants all the revenue they can get on their ORD-BRU flight, so it looks to me that they are shooting themselves on the foot.
Anyone knows the logic of this rule or knows how to bring it to the attention of the right fare analyst?
FLT APPL
APPLIES TO ANY FLIGHT EXCEPT AA 6000 - 6199 ON THE DEPARTURE OF EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR AND APPLIES TO ANY FLIGHT EXCEPT AA 6204 - 6238 OR AA6240 AND APPLIES TO ANY FLIGHT EXCEPT AA 6244 - 6799 AND APPLIES TO ANY FLIGHT EXCEPT AA 7200 - 7559 AND APPLIES TO ANY FLIGHT EXCEPT AA 7655 - 7769 AND APPLIES TO ANY FLIGHT EXCEPT AA 7840 - 7999.
(source: Travelocity, AA fare NLX7EC1)
Insider gossip is that Sabena is headed for that great gate in the sky. This is an ailine that has made a profit twice in seventy something years. Use BA. (But then I am biased)
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In other words, AA is publishing fares to Milan that say that they are valid only if you fly on AA metal into that destination, never mind the fact that AA no longer serves it. I would still think that AA wants all the revenue they can get on their ORD-BRU flight, so it looks to me that they are shooting themselves on the foot.
Anyone knows the logic of this rule or knows how to bring it to the attention of the right fare analyst?
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The EXACT same thing happened to me on a DFW-AMS fare. In fact, I think the fare basis code was the same. It said you must fly AA, then it says no to the code share flights -- but code share is the only way to get there! I called EXP and they were amazed too. They talked to tariff and agreed that there was an error in the tariff filing. It took 24 hours to correct the filing and it it updated in Sabre.
I think that your's is an error too. Call and ask them to check on it -- or better yet, ask them to try to book and price it.
The best engine I've found for quickly finding these split fares is Expedia. But basically, if there is plenty of cheapie quantity on legs inside Europe, you can combine the cheapest AA transatlantic fares (flight numbers < 100) with virtually any one non-AA leg in each direction. The carriers can be different each way, so you can fly ORD-CDG-MXP-LHR-ORD on AA/AF/BA/AA. And if you're looking for miles, you can still do virtually unlimited xfers in NA, such as ORD-BWI-JFK-ALB-BOS-CDG-MXP-LHR-BOS-DCA-ORD as long as you're willing to pay the extra segment taxes.
I have found, however, that the fares price out about $15-$30 higher, however, than the same fares all on one European airline. I suspect that has to do with taxes, but I've never bothered looking into it in great detail.
You can still connect to the Sabena flight if you ticket it as the Sabena flight number. Or for full oneworld points, connect to BA at London.
Originally posted by UserMark:
You can still connect to the Sabena flight if you ticket it as the Sabena flight number.
Aha! It was so simple I missed it.
However, I wonder how many AA reservations people or travel agents are aware of this. As far as I know, AA reservations doesn't even get the SN flight as an option (they have to dig for it), and a travel agent who is fulfilling a request to "use AA" would also end up booking that segment on AA. Both cases would lead to missed revenue (price quoted being too high and customer flying some other airline).
I was first booked to Rome - canceled, then to Milan - canceled....finally I decided it would be a good time to make a stop in London (I'm at LAX, and AA still flys a NS to LHR). Overnighting in London, I'm flying Ryan Air (www.ryanair.com) from London to Italy.... total cost for two of us - round trip - $96 usd for both tickets. The tax was more then the flights. There has been some good discussion regarding Ryan as an option on these boards - and while it won't work all the time - it's an interesting option. Yes...AA booked changed us to LHR without a problem.
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Askworldtraveler, EXP,4 million AA miles+++
Why would you want a ticket on SN anyways. Sounds kind of chancy, given their current situation.
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AA to Milan -- fare rules don't make any sense!!