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    Some famous person, possibly in the 18th or 19th century, once said something like "anybody who claims to understand europe is lying." I don't remember the exact quote. The meaning was, european diplomacy and politics are so complicated and esoteric that any attempt to explain anything simply is bound to be wrong, and/or nobody can possibly understand everything. Who said it, and what's the exact quote?


  • Dear spolsky, Is it possible that the orginal quote referred to the dukedoms of Schleswig-Holstein, still Danish provinces until 1864 and with a historical and political background so complicated that no one was able to understand it? Since these dukedoms were a notable object of European political crisis between 1848 and 1864, an important and famous British politician said something quite famous about this. Do you think this could be the topic of the quotation? Regards, Scriptor
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  • that might be it. When I hear the quotation I'll know if it was the one I was thinking of :) The gist of the quotation was either "look, don't pretend to understand it, it's too complicated" OR "anything you can say about something that complicated is bound to be an oversimplification"
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  • Dear spolsky, Normally, Google Answers does not allow "trial answers" ... but in this case, the danger of making a mistake is rather big, so I will tell you what I think might be the quotation you are looking for. If you consider it to be the right one, simply let me know and I will post it as a "regular" answer. "The Schleswig-Holstein question is so complicated, only three men in Europe have ever understood it. One was Prince Albert,who is dead. The second was a German professor who became mad. I am the third and I have forgotten all about it." This quotation is attributed to Lord Palmerston, British Prime Minister in the 1860s, who was commenting the perpetual crisis concerning the dukedoms of Schleswig and Holstein on the Jutland peninsula, which finally led to the German-Danish War of 1864. However, there is no proof Palmerston really ever said or wrote this. Rather it seems to be a synopsis of what he said in Parliament. Let me know what you think about this quote. Regards, Scriptor


  • That is not the quote I'm looking for, but it is good enough for my needs. So answer it and I'll pay for it, then I'll repost my question to see if anyone can find the original quote I had in mind. Thanks!


  • Dear spolsky, According to your wishes, I hereby post my suggestion as an answer. "The Schleswig-Holstein question is so complicated, only three men in Europe have ever understood it. One was Prince Albert,who is dead. The second was a German professor who became mad. I am the third and I have forgotten all about it." This quotation is attributed to Lord Palmerston, British Prime Minister in the 1860s, who was commenting the perpetual crisis concerning the dukedoms of Schleswig and Holstein on the Jutland peninsula, which finally led to the German-Danish War of 1864. However, there is no proof Palmerston really ever said or wrote this. Rather it seems to be a synopsis of what he said in Parliament. I did not search for this quotation since I already knew it from my history studies about Schleswig-Holstein. I only did some background research, hoping to find the exact source. This remained, alas, fruitless. Nevertheless, this quote can be found literally hundereds of times, with minor variations (sometimes, the "German professor" is a "Danish statesman"). Suggested search terms for additional research on this special quote: palmerston "schleswig-holstein": ://www.google.de/search?q=palmerston+%22schleswig-holstein%22&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=de&meta= Thank you very much for your generosity and best regards, Scriptor





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