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Published by: rose 2009-01-08
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  • I'm presently going through a divorce (TN)which was initiated by my wife. We just had our 1st mediation session. The mediation was without rancor. Immediately after the session I discovered my attorney in disscusion with my wife just outside the front door of her office. In addition to this I had scheduled 30 minutes time before mediation was to begin, to meet with my lawyer and discuss any concerns that I may have re mediation process; she did not keep this app't with me, but instead looked surprised to see in the the waiting room 5 minutes before the mediation was to begin. Now add to this that my wife's car was already parked in front of my attorney's office before I arrived 30 minutes early to meet with my attorney @ 2:30pm. But she was not in the waiting room, instead came through the front door at the expected 3pm time. There are a few doorways leading in and out of my attorneys office. And no coffee shops, diners, ect in the vicinity where you might want relax before a meeting. I desperately want to maintain primary residence for my 10 year old son, and if possible, work out a shared parenting plan and if possible not pay child support to my spouse. My attorney knows this, yet during the day of mediation, she subtley tried to convince me to move from the house, where we still live together as a family. Now I know with the goals I have in mind, that this is the worst possible "advise" a lawyer could give to her client! Bottom line is this, I suspect my lawyer does not have my best interests in mind; Is it unethical conduct for her to meet with my wife without my knowledge? What course of action should I take? Should I fire her? Should I confront her? How might hiring a new lawyer affect my case?


  • Thank you so much! You have answered my question completely, but more than that you have given me some peace of mind. Divorce is an ordeal, punctuated by overwhelming feelings of helplessness and mistrust. The one thing I needed all through this miserable process was someone to turn to ask "..Hey, is this right, should this be happening?..someone truly neutral who could tell me the way it is and offer prudent, knowledgable advice. I don't want to lose my son, my home, or my financial security because of 5 words "..I don't love you any- more..." Now at least a I have the one thing I didn't have, ..a way to seek some unbiased, authoritative counsel.


  • Dear tomtgs, Please bear with me as I answer your question in three parts. The first part is simply a discussion of the forms of divorce mediation, which I hope you will find helpful. You can skip over it if you are not interested. The second part addresses your first question, about the ethics of your attorney's meeting with your wife. There is a possibility of an ethical violation in that meeting, but probably not of your attorney's duties to you. The third part addresses the courses of action you may wish to consider. I suggest you speak with your attorney and try to work things out before choosing a more drastic course of action. I. About Divorce Mediation A. The Types of Divorce Mediation Divorce mediation is usually offered in one of three forms: - "Evaluative Mediation" - a form of arbitration. The mediator listens to the parties discuss their case, entertains evidence about the value of property, and makes a recommendation as to what he believes would be an appropriate settlement. - "Facilitative Mediation" - The mediator listens to the parties, and tries to guide them to forming their own resolution to their case. The goal is to achieve a settlement that leaves both parties at least satisfied, if not happy, with the outcome. Also, it has been asserted that where the parties negotiate their own settlement agreement, they are much more likely to adhere to its terms. This means that there may be less acrimony following the divorce than with a litigated case. - "Hybrid" Mediation - The mediator starts in the facilitative mode, until the parties reach an impasse, and then resolves any remaining issues in an evaluative mode. Another form of mediation is "transformative" mediation, which is similar to facilitative mediation but is focused on "empowering" the parties. An overview of the forms of mediation, and their relative advantages and disadvantages, can be found on the Mediation Training & Consultation Institute's website: http://learn2mediate.com/resources/nafcm.php B. Why a Lawyer Might Want to Speak to the Other Party The closer a mediation gets to the facilitative model, the more important it is for a lawyer to have an idea of the needs and desires of the other party. The reason for this is twofold. First, a lawyer in a facilitative mediation needs to help her client understand his legal rights, and the probable outcome of the case both through the mediation and litigation processes. Second, the lawyer must also help guide her client toward a realistic perspective on the probable outcome of the case. For example, if both parties in a divorce want to keep the marital home, one of the parties will either have to be convinced to surrender the marital home to the other, or mediation will fail. If mediation fails, a court will either award the house to one party, or will order the house sold and the equity divided between the parties. A lawyer will often have a good idea of what a judge in her jurisdiction is likely to do, if this sort of issue is litigated, and may be inclined to urge a client she believes would ultimately lose the house to instead negotiate to give his wife the house in return for a more favorable resolution of other issues. For mediation to work, one party must change his or her mind about the house. When the opportunity arises to find out if the other party really wants the house, or if she is pressing the issue in order to try to gain advantage on other issues, a lawyer would find it difficult to decline the opportunity. That type of information will help her gauge her client's options, and help her guide him toward making offers and demands that are likely to result in settlement, as opposed to impasse. II. Is It Unethical For Your Attorney To Meet With Your Wife Without Your Knowledge? With regard to your first question, "Is it unethical conduct for my attorney to meet with my wife without my knowledge?", the short answer is "no" - your attorney isn't ethically prohibited from speaking to an opposing party, even if it is your wife in a divorce case. At the same time, if your wife is represented by attorney, your lawyer should not meet with her outside the presence of her attorney unless her attorney has authorized the meeting. If she knew your wife to be represented by counsel and met with her without permission from your wife's counsel, the violation would be of your lawyer's duties to your wife, not her duties to you. A. The Ethical Rules The ethics rules for the Tennessee Bar Association are available on its website: http://www.tba.org/ethics/index.html Ethical Rule 4.2 reads: ---------------------- Communication with a Person Represented by Counsel In representing a client, a lawyer shall not communicate about the subject of the representation with a person the lawyer knows to be represented by another lawyer in the matter, unless the lawyer has the consent of the other lawyer or is authorized by law to do so. http://www.tba.org/ethics/rule4.2.html ----------------------- Even if your wife doesn't have her own attorney, your lawyer is also barred by Ethical Rule 4.3 ("Dealing with an unrepresented person") from concealing her interest in the litigation, or giving your wife legal advice. http://www.tba.org/ethics/rule4.3.html B. Your Lawyer's Duties to Keep You Informed As outlined in the first part of this answer, there are good reasons for a lawyer in a divorce mediation to wish to speak with the other party. In the situation you describe, a mediation, the other party will be the best source of information about her own desired outcome for the litigation, and her reactions to any offers you or your attorney have made. The ethical rules, particularly Rule 1.4 governing communication between attorney and client, require attorneys to keep their clients informed about significant developments in a case, but that does not reach the level of asking for permission to interview witnesses or to take an opportunity to speak with the other party. Instead, that relates to significant issues, such as the commencement of litigation, and relation of settlement offers. The interviewing of witnesses is a routine part of preparation for any form of litigation or formal dispute resolution. As the notes to Rule 1.4 indicate, "Where many routine matters are involved, a system of limited or occasional reporting may be arranged with the client." http://www.tba.org/ethics/rule1.4.html In other words, your attorney should be keeping you appraised of the status of your case, and about what she has learned from the witnesses she has interviewed (including your wife), but doesn't have to ask your permission before engaging in routine activities. Please also note that this process does not have to be one of formally debriefing the client on all of the details of the case - even if clients wanted that level of detail, many would be unhappy to be billed for it. If your attorney isn't giving you the level of detail you desire or require, you should take the initiative and ask for additional information. C. Your Attorney's Action May Benefit You. In litigation, most lawyers desire to speak with the opposing party. As mentioned above, this is the best way of finding out what the opposing party wants, and what they think of any offers made to date. Ordinarily, such meetings are not possible, except with the permission of opposing counsel, who insists upon being present during any conversation. When opposing counsel is present, it can be difficult or impossible to get the key information that will help with the case. III. What Course of Action Should I Take? The answer to your question ultimately depends upon your ability to restore an atmosphere of trust between yourself and your attorney. A brief overview of considerations for clients in hiring and resolving disputes with lawyers can be found on the Expertlaw website: http://www.expertlaw.com/library/pubarticles/howtohire.html A. Should You Confront Her? Yes - by all means. This is the only way you will be able to end the suspicion and get your attorney-client relationship back on track. Thus, you should set up a meeting with your lawyer, to get an update on the status of your case and to discuss your concerns. If you don't feel you will be able to articulate your concerns in person, for whatever, reason, type them up in advance of the meeting so you can either read them or present them to her in the form of a letter. Listen carefully to your attorney's answers, and ask any follow-up questions you need answered to put your concerns to rest. It may be that after such a meeting, you find that your attorney very much has your best interests at heart, and that your confidence in her is restored. Please note that you should avoid being accusatorial or confrontational in such contact. That can be damaging to the attorney-client relationship. Instead, be inquisitive and polite. You can get the information you believe by stating, "I noticed that you met with my wife the other day. I was wondering why you chose to speak to her, and what she said." B. Should I Fire Her? You should not fire your lawyer before you try to find out what happened and why. Otherwise, you risk firing a lawyer who knows a lot about your case, and who has your best interests at heart, and having to pay another attorney to learn your case from scratch. Additionally, changing attorneys can cause a delay in the resolution of your case. If you find that you truly cannot establish a relationship of trust with your attorney, even after all of your questions are answered, you may wish to consider changing attorneys. You had the wisdom to anticipate that doing so may cause problems for your case. C. How Might Hiring a New Lawyer Affect My Case? Changing lawyers during the course of litigation has been compared to changing horses in midstream. As a case nears its ultimate resolution, changing lawyers becomes more difficult, costly, and potentially damaging to your case. Thus, the best time to change lawyers is before anything material has occurred on a case, and the worst time is typically during a trial. When a new lawyer enters a case, that lawyer must both learn everything about your case and everything that has happened during the course of any prior litigation or mediation proceedings. In other words, in addition to paying any amount owed to your first lawyer, you have to pay your new lawyer to learn what your current attorney already knows. Nolo provides an online guide to "The Financial Reality of Changing Lawyers": http://www.nolo.com/lawstore/products/product.cfm/objectID/D3CB5928-6D90-43BB-96D74AE27A747B8F/sampleChapter/4 If your lawyer has good rapport with the mediator or the trial judge, by firing your lawyer you may also give the mediator or judge the impression that you are unreasonable. This is not always fair, but it happens, and it can hurt your ability to get the desired outcome. Particularly in litigation or evaluative mediation, the judge or mediator may favor the party deemed most reasonable, particularly in relation to child custody. Changing lawyers can also delay the outcome of a case, as hearings or mediation sessions may have to be adjourned so that the lawyer has an opportunity to learn the case, and reach a starting point for negotiations with opposing counsel. Another issue is that some lawyers will decline to take a case where they believe that a client has unreasonably fired another lawyer. If you do decide to change lawyers, the Knoxville Bar Association has prepared a short guide to the steps involved: http://www.knoxbar.org/Law_Line/T1_1004.html Additional Links: The Knoxville Bar Association presents on its website a guide to Tennessee family law: http://www.knoxbar.org/Law_Line/T8.html Research Strategy: In addition to my own experience handling divorce cases, I utilized the following Google searches: Tennessee Bar Ethics ://www.google.com/search?q=Tennessee+Bar+Ethics Changing Lawyers ://www.google.com/search?q=Changing+Lawyers Evaluative Mediation Divorce ://www.google.com/search?q=Evaluative+Mediation+Divorce I hope you find this helpful, - expertlaw
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